ignition all messed up
05-09-2007, 07:14 PM
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ignition all messed up
so someone tried to steal my ninja by pouring sand into the ignition and packing it down in the event that it might push the bumpers or something to the right spot.. or someone was just being an ******* and put it in there
nonetheless i have to take it to the shop, but i can't get it started, hence the sand in the ignition..
the guy at the shop said to cut the wires going to the ignition, hook them all to a wire coming off the negative of the batter, and then put the ground cable on the positive part of the batter
he says that this will start it.. but i was thinking, won't that blow up every electrical thing in the bike?
or did i misunderstand him?
cus it makes more sense to me to hook the wires from the ignition and route them to the positive part of the battery
lmk if hes right, or if i am.. thanks
nonetheless i have to take it to the shop, but i can't get it started, hence the sand in the ignition..
the guy at the shop said to cut the wires going to the ignition, hook them all to a wire coming off the negative of the batter, and then put the ground cable on the positive part of the batter
he says that this will start it.. but i was thinking, won't that blow up every electrical thing in the bike?
or did i misunderstand him?
cus it makes more sense to me to hook the wires from the ignition and route them to the positive part of the battery
lmk if hes right, or if i am.. thanks
05-10-2007, 05:53 AM
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Personally, I wouldn't cut ANYTHING off of ANYTHING.
That's going to be even more expense for you once you get to the shop. Although tedious as 40 hells, what I would do is remove the ignition switch, take it down to a garage or full service gas station and have them blow the sand out with highly compressed air.
You can wedge the slot covering open with a paper clip and simply blast the hell out of it until the key goes in and will turn the switch. (DO NOT PUT OIL IN IT BEFORE THE SAND IS CLEARED!!!)
At that point, you can hook it back to the bike and take her down to the shop and have it checked out if you wish or simply go with it as is.
On the other hand, if you can pull the switch yourself, simply go buy the new one and put it in yourself.
Either way, I wouldn't start hacking at wires.
In the long run, it would be far cheaper to rent a U-haul for a few hours and tote the bike down to the shop and let them handle it entirely.
Regards,
Parminio
That's going to be even more expense for you once you get to the shop. Although tedious as 40 hells, what I would do is remove the ignition switch, take it down to a garage or full service gas station and have them blow the sand out with highly compressed air.
You can wedge the slot covering open with a paper clip and simply blast the hell out of it until the key goes in and will turn the switch. (DO NOT PUT OIL IN IT BEFORE THE SAND IS CLEARED!!!)
At that point, you can hook it back to the bike and take her down to the shop and have it checked out if you wish or simply go with it as is.
On the other hand, if you can pull the switch yourself, simply go buy the new one and put it in yourself.
Either way, I wouldn't start hacking at wires.
In the long run, it would be far cheaper to rent a U-haul for a few hours and tote the bike down to the shop and let them handle it entirely.
Regards,
Parminio
05-10-2007, 06:23 AM
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The ignition is just a "locking "mechinism I have an old "RAT"bike that just has a Toggle switch to turn it on,but I would not recomend you do that for a new bike.
you should have the bike trailered down to the shop and have a new ignition switch put on and maybe a "kill" switch also. this way even if they "pop"the lock they still cant start the bike.
but most bike theives I think just tear it down for parts and discard the items with VIN #'s on them so an alarm might be prudent too if you can afford it.
you should have the bike trailered down to the shop and have a new ignition switch put on and maybe a "kill" switch also. this way even if they "pop"the lock they still cant start the bike.
but most bike theives I think just tear it down for parts and discard the items with VIN #'s on them so an alarm might be prudent too if you can afford it.
05-10-2007, 08:19 AM
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Personally, I wouldn't cut ANYTHING off of ANYTHING.
That's going to be even more expense for you once you get to the shop. Although tedious as 40 hells, what I would do is remove the ignition switch, take it down to a garage or full service gas station and have them blow the sand out with highly compressed air.
You can wedge the slot covering open with a paper clip and simply blast the hell out of it until the key goes in and will turn the switch. (DO NOT PUT OIL IN IT BEFORE THE SAND IS CLEARED!!!)
At that point, you can hook it back to the bike and take her down to the shop and have it checked out if you wish or simply go with it as is.
On the other hand, if you can pull the switch yourself, simply go buy the new one and put it in yourself.
Either way, I wouldn't start hacking at wires.
In the long run, it would be far cheaper to rent a U-haul for a few hours and tote the bike down to the shop and let them handle it entirely.
Regards,
Parminio
That's going to be even more expense for you once you get to the shop. Although tedious as 40 hells, what I would do is remove the ignition switch, take it down to a garage or full service gas station and have them blow the sand out with highly compressed air.
You can wedge the slot covering open with a paper clip and simply blast the hell out of it until the key goes in and will turn the switch. (DO NOT PUT OIL IN IT BEFORE THE SAND IS CLEARED!!!)
At that point, you can hook it back to the bike and take her down to the shop and have it checked out if you wish or simply go with it as is.
On the other hand, if you can pull the switch yourself, simply go buy the new one and put it in yourself.
Either way, I wouldn't start hacking at wires.
In the long run, it would be far cheaper to rent a U-haul for a few hours and tote the bike down to the shop and let them handle it entirely.
Regards,
Parminio
This sounds like the easiest way, so i'll try it first!
I've just got one problem, how do i remove the ignition? Im thinking you can probably just pull it out somehow, but I'm weary of breaking it..
05-10-2007, 12:41 PM
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Uhh, i think i have a problem!
the good news is that the ignition is now out of the bike..
but the bad news is that my room mate, who got it out, did it in a way he saw on TV.. (yeah, i was kind of mad when i got back home but he said he'd pay for the fixing if it's really messed up)
What he did: he said that he screwed a screw into where you put the key, managed to get it in about half way, and then used a the back of a hammer to pull it out (like the way you'd remove a nail)
Now, there is just a hole there a few inches deep and a little plastic looking piece with a hole in it near the bottom of the cylinder. He said he was going to use a screwdriver to start it, but wasn't sure if it would break or not.
So i ask you, what the hell did he do?! Is it completely lost? Will it start with a damn screwdriver now? cus it's parked outside..
the good news is that the ignition is now out of the bike..
but the bad news is that my room mate, who got it out, did it in a way he saw on TV.. (yeah, i was kind of mad when i got back home but he said he'd pay for the fixing if it's really messed up)
What he did: he said that he screwed a screw into where you put the key, managed to get it in about half way, and then used a the back of a hammer to pull it out (like the way you'd remove a nail)
Now, there is just a hole there a few inches deep and a little plastic looking piece with a hole in it near the bottom of the cylinder. He said he was going to use a screwdriver to start it, but wasn't sure if it would break or not.
So i ask you, what the hell did he do?! Is it completely lost? Will it start with a damn screwdriver now? cus it's parked outside..
05-14-2007, 04:01 AM
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I beleive he was reading how to potentially steal it, not fix it.
You can find the blowup of a 2006 Ninja Ignition in the parts manual here:
http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~trevs/F...%20Diagram.pdf
When you're asking for help, make sure you list the year as well. There's no such thing as too much information.
If your bike is anywhere close to this parts manual year wise, it should be about the same. It looks as though you have to pull the switch via removing a retaining nut underneath the switch housing. Then you replace the tumbler by compressing the retaining pins and you're in like flint.
Your buddy has more than likely destroyed the housing as well.
Regards,
Parminio
You can find the blowup of a 2006 Ninja Ignition in the parts manual here:
http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~trevs/F...%20Diagram.pdf
When you're asking for help, make sure you list the year as well. There's no such thing as too much information.
If your bike is anywhere close to this parts manual year wise, it should be about the same. It looks as though you have to pull the switch via removing a retaining nut underneath the switch housing. Then you replace the tumbler by compressing the retaining pins and you're in like flint.
Your buddy has more than likely destroyed the housing as well.
Regards,
Parminio
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